Ep. 31 Ireland’s Leap Castle: A Legacy of Blood and Betrayal

For centuries, Leap Castle has stood as one of Ireland’s most haunted and blood-soaked fortresses. In this episode, we dive into its dark past—starting with the O’Bannons, who built it, before the ruthless O’Carroll clan seized control. From the infamous Bloody Chapel murder to the hidden dungeon filled with the remains of the O’Carrolls’ victims, this castle’s walls have witnessed unspeakable horrors.

We explore the fall of the O’Carrolls, the arrival of the Darby family, and Mildred Darby’s chilling experiments with black magic. Could her dabbling have awakened something even darker—like the elusive Elemental spirit said to haunt the castle? And what spirits still roam these ruined halls after centuries of violence, destruction, and paranormal sightings?

Join us as we uncover the bloody history, ghostly legends, and supernatural mysteries of Leap Castle.

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Transcript

Deep in the heart of Ireland stands a fortress with a past soaked in blood.

Leap Castle, a place where betrayal ran deep, where family turned on family, and where the echoes of violence still linger in stone walls.

Some say the spirits of the fallen never left, that the bloody chapel still holds the horrors of its past.

Is this Ireland's most haunted castle?

Let's find out.

What up, what up, what up, and welcome back to the Kraken Cans Podcast.

The podcast, we talk all things cryptid, all things urban legend, and all things just a little bit spooky.

Or a lot spooky.

A lot spooky.

I think today we're getting into the spook-tacular.

Today is gonna be so much fun.

So much fun.

Spooky, overseas spookiness.

It's gonna be cool, I'm excited.

Yeah, we're diving into Ireland today.

Diving in.

For the folks, baby, diving in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So before we get to it, I got a story to tell you.

Ooh, I like stories.

So the other night, I made my way for watching TV.

We're watching 40-year-old Virgin.

Classic.

We were like an hour and a half in, and TV just cuts out because we forgot to pay our internet bill.

Oh.

Yes.

You just talked about doing it like three episodes ago.

Damn.

As soon as we did it, it's like, son of a bitch, I'm just as bad as Corey.

You probably thought of me right away.

I did.

First thing I thought of, and we knew it was coming because I got an alert on my phone, but they sent the alert on a Friday when they're already closed.

I guess I could have called anyways because it's all voice automated or whatever.

But yeah, so I just called the next morning and then it was turned on in a half hour.

Son of a bitch.

I was ready to crawl through my rafters like you.

Just crawl through the whole house.

Checking the-

I wasn't.

I know I'm a bum.

I just know I'm a bum.

Damn mice.

Yeah.

I figured it was just the kids gnawing on something.

Yeah.

I figured you'd appreciate that.

I like it.

I like it a lot.

I like it a lot.

So, you want to get right into the video?

You got anything fun for the day?

Fun?

Yeah.

Beside your...

You probably got like diabetes or something now.

No.

Last time fun was high cholesterol.

So, me and you have different funs, I think.

I guess this isn't really fun, but something that happened the other night, when we were sleeping and we have cameras around our house.

So, we get alerts when motion is detected or whatever.

So, for whatever reason, my phone, I turn that shit on vibrate, silent.

When I go to sleep, it's like, I don't hear anything.

But then Kendra's phone, it just beeps anytime there's motion.

So, at like 330 a.m., her phone just beep, like it just beeps.

This could be a cryptid beep.

So, you got to look.

And I'm like, well, I'm up now.

Let's see what the hell's going on.

It's got to be a cryptid.

So, I look at the camera to the front left of our house, and we have like one of them little flags out there that just stick in the ground.

Yeah.

And I still don't know what it was, but it was either a cat or a skunk that was like wrestling with that flag.

Just going at it.

Yeah.

And I feel like part of me, I thought it was a cat at first, but then I saw this huge white stripe that I'm like-

What's on this flag?

I think it just says like-

Like welcome or something like that.

Yeah, something like that.

I didn't know if it was like a commie out there just wrestling the American flag down.

So, I was like, is that a skunk, a cat?

I don't know, but it just kept beeping and beeping.

So then I checked the other ones.

I looked our camera out back.

I see two black cats just like coming down the driveway, like by the garbage cans and stuff.

And I'm like, and then the front out front goes off and a cat's walking on the front porch.

And I'm like, what the, like, what's going on?

That's a gang.

Yeah, like that's like a street gang.

I know.

So I was like, I was yelling at Dale.

I'm like, Dale, you better go figure this out, dude.

Dale's just like, I need at least four scoops of food before I'm even going to lift the pole to go out there.

Yeah.

So I kept checking every camera and I just kept seeing different animals like cats and I could have swore I could still, I believe the one was a skunk though.

So it's like, yeah, it's like Pepe Le Pew.

I think it fell asleep wrapped up in that flag too.

I don't understand.

It was weird.

Yeah.

But that was-

That's what goes on here.

That was interesting though.

Yeah.

That's something that's much better than me just not paying my internet bill.

Yeah.

So we got the funny farm going on here.

Yeah.

Never know what's going to happen.

So it's like this beer.

Beer.

I don't know.

That was a horrible transition.

I'm going to roll with it.

Yeah.

It was.

He said.

I was expecting you to be like, no, it wasn't that bad.

That was awful.

That was pretty shitty.

Yeah.

Sucked.

All right.

All right.

So we got the beer and this is our fifth, number five, fifth beer from New Trail.

Yeah.

No wonder we had to get a sign.

Yeah.

It's lead.

I think it's lead in like beer breweries, beer companies.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

I think I just did it the other night.

I think Trogs might have had four and now this one with five.

So this will be the lead.

Yeah.

So we got, we got Base Jump, which actually just came out like beginning of March.

Just hit the shelves.

So it's a brand new one.

They just pumped this baby out from the teat and it is a hazy double IPA coming in at a hefty nine percent.

Hefty like me.

Hefty lefty, they call them.

The hefty lefty.

But I'm a righty.

It's weird.

It gets really confusing.

I don't get it either.

Yeah.

But they do call me the hefty lefty.

Like I said, it's the fifth beer from these new trail folks over in Williamsport, PA.

PA, home of the Little League World Series.

And we're going to dig more into this as we dig into our topic of...

It's spelled L-E-A-P, Leap Castle.

But it's, I guess it's pronounced Lep Castle.

But, you know, from our neck of the woods, we say Leap.

Yeah.

So I'm going to say Leap Castle.

And if anybody has a problem with that, I'm sorry.

I thought it was Lepe.

Lepe?

Yeah.

Leap?

Leap.

Yeah.

So Leap, Leap Castle.

Like, how you throw the worst accent on it ever?

I've been just pronouncing exactly the same.

As we go to Leap Castle.

Leap.

I'm not going to dig into this.

Like, I'm going to try to tell you the reason I picked it, but I don't want to give too much of the story away.

So you're going to get a little snippet here.

So hey, this is what we can do.

Yeah.

So you can kind of get into it a little bit.

And then when I pick up on the story, when we're hitting the beer part, I'll call it out.

Okay.

Like when I think we're hitting that part.

I'll just dig into the episode.

There we go.

Dive in.

And then you just need to like somehow...

Actually pay attention for once in my life.

Give me like, what's the keyword?

Beer?

No, it's too much.

The ducks fly at midnight.

Okay.

So when I hear the ducks fly at midnight...

It's going to be really good because when I hit you with that, you're going to be in like the middle of a sentence and just like, give me the look like what are you talking about?

Yeah, I'm going to forget.

Yeah, that'll be fun.

That'll make sure I pay attention this episode.

All right.

Sweet.

So just a reminder, this is called Base Jump.

Base Jump.

All right.

The primary sources I used for this episode are sierramchugh.com, an article titled, The Bloody Chapel at Leap Castle.

Leap Castle.

thelittlehouseofhorrors.com, horrors with an H.

Wait.

How else do you spell horrors?

Article titled Leap Castle.

Hold on a second.

Horrors with an H.

How else do you spell horrors?

With a W.

Horr.

Oh, okay.

My bad.

My B.

My B.

My brain was not following that at all.

With an article titled Leap Castle.

Then the other one I used was leapcastle.net.

leapcastle.net.

Yeah.

That's where they self-proclaim that they are the most haunted, number one haunted castle in the world.

They say they're the biggest leap.

Actually, it might be Ireland, but I mean, whatever.

The biggest lep.

So now we're going to dig into Leap Castle.

Leap Castle was built sometime between 1250 and 1300.

It could even be a little after 1300.

The time frames and history of this is very loose, as is much of the stories and things that I'm going to go over in this episode.

It's like hearsay.

Did you ever, so like I always read this theory, that there's like a theory that there's a huge chunk of the Middle Ages, that was like the records were so like, when you go with the Greeks and stuff like that and into the Roman Empire, a lot of the records were kept pretty clean and close.

So we actually do have a really good idea.

There's like a section of like Medieval times when nobody actually knows how long like the Medieval times went.

Like we could not even be in the year like technically 2024, 2025.

Well, we could not technically be in that year.

They might have just like, we're just guessing on like certain, like decades and centuries in the Middle Ages.

Yeah.

So I think when you throw that in, it makes it even harder to know when was this thing built?

Yeah.

So sometime in the 1200s, 1300s, this castle was built.

Yeah.

Could have been 11, could have been 14.

Who knows?

Give or take a couple of hundred years.

Yeah.

And this place has a long history of bloodshed and death.

Death.

It is said to be one of the most haunted locations in all of Ireland.

And the website claims that it is the most haunted castle in the world.

Oh, interesting.

So, I mean, they self-proclaim that.

Yeah.

Well, of course, I probably would too.

Yeah.

That's like if you go to New York and you get like, you know, it's like the world's greatest cheesesteak or something.

Yeah.

Whatever pizza.

Pizza.

Yeah.

And the New Yorkers think their pizza is just like the cream of the crap.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But it's all right.

Yeah.

Ocean City, Maryland, I had the world's greatest cheesesteak.

And I can tell you right now, it was not the world's greatest.

It was probably the world's worst cheesesteak.

Dude, you know where I had the worst pizza experience of my life?

Where?

I was down in North Carolina and we were in Duck, North Carolina.

I've been there.

Yeah.

And there's Duck Pizza.

One of the only, and I'm not throwing shade at them, but that pizza sucked.

It was just not a good, we just got a plain cheese because we had got in late.

So I just, we got dumped our bags.

I called them and ordered it and went, I think I picked up like a six pack or 12 pack of beer and then went there and got, and it was just like, this is, I was hungry.

We drove all day.

When you're hungry and the pizza still stinks, that's a bad pizza.

That's bad pizza.

Yeah.

We'll probably get it again this year when we go.

So that just is what it is.

Yeah.

The castle is located approximately four miles north of Ross Cray, which is just south of the center.

So it's almost in the center of Ireland.

It's just a little bit south of the center.

The castle was built by the O'Bannon clan, where it was called Lamey Vaanan.

Oh, nailed it.

Lamey Vaanan, or the Leap or Lep of the Bannons.

Or Jeff.

That's what I heard they call him too.

Could be.

And to put it into perspective, Ireland, like size wise, is like the size of Indiana, the state.

I just needed to look that up because I just wasn't sure.

Yeah.

The land where the castle was built belonged to the Druids.

And Druids in Ireland were part of a class of religious leaders, wise people, and natural philosophers in ancient Celtic society.

The Druidic tradition was deeply rooted in the culture of the Celts, especially in Ireland, and played a key role in the social, political, and spiritual life of the time.

The term Druid is often associated with nature worship, rituals, and a deep understanding of the natural world.

Druids kept no written accounts and can be traced as far back as the 4th century BCE.

That's where this clan came from?

No, this is the land.

So the land where the castle is, I guess, was once, I guess...

I don't know what you want to say.

Did this clan just storm up there and build this castle on it?

Well, I think it was like, it was like, back, like way back in time, the Druids were on this piece of land.

And then like years later, this castle gets built on the land where the Druids once, you know, held ceremonies and worships and all that stuff.

So is it OK?

So that's probably has something to do with some of the things there.

Yeah, OK.

Yep.

OK.

Before the castle was even built, legend says that two brothers of the O'Bannon clan challenged each other for leadership of the clan and the castle.

So they're challenging each for the castle before they have the castle.

Yeah.

OK.

So like they they challenge each other because they both want to be like the leader of their clan or the chieftain, as it's called, and they want to be like in charge of this castle.

OK.

So they're they're they're challenging each other to see who it's going to be.

OK.

Cool.

We excited.

So how they challenge each other.

The only way to settle this was for both brothers to jump off the rocky outcrop where the castle was to be built.

The surviving brother would be named the leader of the clan and the castle.

Are we having some ducks flying at midnight right now?

We are.

Just hold on.

Let me just make sure she's the last little part here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is how.

So this is how the castle got its name.

So the two brothers jumped.

The brother that survived the jump would then be named leader of the clan and the castle.

I have so many questions about this.

And I don't have answers.

So it's kind of it's up to debate.

So like if they both die, then they're both just dead.

And like number three, that was the smartest one not to jump off the cliff.

We should probably just be in charge to begin with, because he was the smartest one not to jump off the cliff.

And what if they both survive?

Like would everyone survive the most?

Yeah, like had the least amount of injuries.

It's like, I don't know, he he looks, he only has like two broken legs and a broken arm.

That other dude broke his neck.

So I guess, yeah.

Or what if it was like you and I both went up there and, you know, we're like arguing, like, who wants to go first?

I'm like, I'll go first.

Yeah, they had to jump at the same time, right?

Yeah.

Or what if it was like we jump at the same time?

Oh, just kidding.

Like you jump and die.

I bet in like The Clant, they would have been killed for like sissying out of it at the end.

Yeah.

I would think.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

Duck flies at midnight.

Duck flies at midnight.

Did I nail it?

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

Yes.

I'm glad it was early on, so I had time.

So welcome back to the beer section.

So Mike picked up on the reason for me picking the base jump beer from New Trail Brewing Company.

That's a good call.

I like that tie-in.

That's cool.

As soon as I saw this beer and I was doing this talk, I'm like, because I don't have the beer picked out yet.

Yeah.

I saw this beer and I'm just like, yep, that's the one.

Yeah.

Because you sent it to me on Instagram, didn't you?

Yeah.

So the O'Bannons brothers, they jump off the cliff to determine who would lead Leap Castle, which mirrors the spirit of base jumping today.

The brothers leapt from the base of the cliff where the castle would be built, risking it all to prove their courage and claim leadership.

Are they jumping in water?

I think it's just the ground.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Just dirt and maybe some rocks.

I'm just trying to make sense of this.

Yeah.

It's just no part of it's making sense in my brain.

Yeah, it doesn't.

I tried to.

So they risked it all to prove their courage, claim leadership.

This daring act is like the modern thrill of base jumping, embracing danger for the ultimate challenge.

However, modern base jumping involves actually having a parachute to safely land.

Yeah.

Which these fellas didn't have.

No.

Yeah.

I feel like we're both just really puzzled by this whole contest.

Yeah.

I feel like if you win, you still lost because you jumped off a cliff.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That's who you choose to run your clan.

The guy that jumped off the cliff.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I know.

Okay.

Then I just have New Trails base jump beer embodies that same adrenaline and bravery.

Whether you're leaping from a cliff to lead a clan or jumping for the thrill of it today, both moments are about taking risks, living boldly and embracing the unknown.

It's the perfect drink to toast after taking that giant leap, just like the O'Bannon brothers did centuries ago.

Nice.

I feel like they had to have at least like four or five of these before they jumped off there.

Like quick too.

Like quick ones.

Yeah.

We already talked about the old time beer, so that would have been beer from like the 12, 1300s.

Yeah.

Nobody knows what, I feel like that's just got to taste like butt.

Yeah.

Well, cheers to this and you want to give a little review?

Boom.

So when I've, I've been like sipping on this for a little bit, but it has the notes of white wine, minerality.

I feel like I can, like I taste like the white wine-ness of it.

Just, it's like this like distinct flavor.

Yeah.

When I first took a sip of it, I did not really, I thought it was just kind of really odd.

As I had like took a couple more sips, I actually really like it.

It's good.

It's really good.

Because you get that piney-ness too.

Yeah.

But it's not like, it's not too like, because I know you like the piney-ness.

Yeah, I do.

But you get just a little bit of the piney-ness mixed with, I think what you said, the white wine.

Yeah, it finishes with that like wine and it is different, but I am liking it.

It's good.

It is good.

Tasty.

9%er.

Tasty.

Hell, yeah.

I don't know if I've had anything from New Trail that I wasn't like a fan of yet.

No, it's all good.

Sponsor.

Yeah, pretty much.

We'll be working on it.

Don't worry.

Yeah.

Don't worry.

We'll take the other sides down and just put you guys up there.

That's fine.

Yeah, just one big one.

If that's what you guys want.

Big one.

We'll test out your beer.

Yeah, for free.

Yeah, and talk about it.

Just send it to us.

Yeah.

Pump that shit way up.

Your numbers are going to skyrocket.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So are we back at the clan?

Yes.

Well, we're going to be talking about the next clan, actually.

Okay.

So we're on the next clan.

So we were on the O'Bannon clan.

So they're the ones that built the castle, lived in it for, and again, like years, like numbers is just...

Guestimate kind of thing.

I'm guesstimating that they lived here for like approximately 150, 200 years before...

I like that.

I like that you had a guesstimate.

That was good.

Before the next clan takes over, this son of a bitch.

So Cory, I have some insider information and I know that it's the O'Carroll clan that takes over.

The O'Carroll clan, yes, they take over this castle, like I said, approximately 150, 200 years after it was built by the O'Bannons.

And the O'Carroll clan were a much bigger, more powerful, prominent in the region.

And the only reason that I could find, like for why they took it over, was just simply that they wanted it.

That makes sense.

Like, you know, like.

I feel like that's just the world, you know?

You see something, you see somebody has something bigger than you, and you want it.

Yeah.

And just a like little fun fact.

So you know what the O in front of like the O'Bannion and O'Connell and all that means?

I knew this at one point, but I don't remember.

So it comes from, it basically means like descent or grandson of.

So it's like how they like continue their family, you know?

Like, like, like the Smiths start, and then like the grandsons will be like the O'smiths and everybody in that family would be like the O'smiths.

Because like I was looking like years ago, I was trying to look at like my ancestry over to Ireland and stuff, and I like found like O'Gallagher's and stuff like that over there.

Yeah, so it would be though like O'Gallagher would be a descendant from Gallagher, essentially.

Yeah, that's cute.

Yeah, that's a little fun fact.

Fun fact.

Fun fact.

Mike's full of them.

So yeah, the only reason they took it was because they wanted it.

Yeah.

Me see, me want, me get.

Well, it's a big place, right?

Yeah, it's not like, when you think of a castle, like it's not, it's not a huge castle.

Like, I don't know what the square footage like it's, it's still a fricking castle.

It's not like humongous, but it's I mean, it's a it's a fricking castle.

Yeah.

But it's not like it's not like like Dracula's Castle.

Just to see Norma's monstrosity.

It's a big castle, but it's not anything that's.

You know, huge.

Not huge.

Also not huge, huge.

Yeah, put that out.

We're so descriptive on the show.

We just we like to dumb it down for the folks for the folks for the people.

John O'Carroll was the chieftain or the leader of the O'Carroll clan when they overtook the castle from the O'Bannons.

And at some point, at some point, he died at Leap Castle suffering from the plague.

And John O'Carroll was succeeded by his son, Molderooney O'Carroll.

And the only reason I mentioned that is just because we're going to talk about a lot of death and murder and bloodshed that happened at this castle.

Yeah.

So I just want to throw in that that dude died from the plague.

So that's that's one death that happened here.

Okay.

Could you imagine if I just showed up at your house one day?

I just like walked in and looked around.

It's like, yeah, this is this is going to be mine now.

Yeah, that's basically.

Yeah, that's how it was.

It's just weird.

That's how it was, you know, a thousand years ago or whatever.

Yeah.

You just go.

You like something.

Yeah.

Just it's fine now.

So I could see myself living here.

Yeah, this would be good.

It'd be all right for now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Until I find something bigger.

Yeah.

And it isn't clear how.

So when the O'Bannons or when the O'Carrolls took over the castle from the O'Bannons, it wasn't exactly clear how it went down.

But I'm going to assume that there was some type of battle and the O'Carrolls just ran through the O'Bannons.

And the way I look at it, just with reading how big the O'Carrolls were at this time compared to the O'Bannons, like I just picture it.

Like, you know, when you're cutting through butter with a hot knife?

Yeah.

Just go right through that son of a bitch.

Yeah.

That's what I pictured it.

When you say, like, when you throw a numbers game, I think of, like, World War II, when the Soviets were, like, pushing into areas with the Germans.

They were getting mowed down, but they just had so many guys that they just kept just leaping over each other.

So they were just, they're just eventually going to overwhelm you by sheer numbers.

Yeah.

So the O'Carrolls just mowed down the O'Bannons is what I'm going with.

There's also the idea that the O'Carrolls used political power to affiliate themselves with other key members of society before taking over the castle.

And this is something that the O'Carrolls were known for that we will talk about in a little bit.

Gotcha.

And it seems like this takeover was strategically planned out over a period of time before being acted upon.

Or maybe it wasn't.

And John O'Carroll just woke up one day and said, I would like to add Leap Castle to my collection.

Let's get it.

I don't know.

The O'Carroll family controlled the castle until 1649.

And we're going to talk more about the O'Carrolls.

I'm just throwing this in now.

So the O'Carroll family controlled the castle until 1649.

And we will get into when they lost control of the castle.

But right now, we're going to talk about shit getting crazy while these O'Carrolls are in control of this castle.

It's going to get real.

Yeah, it's going to get real.

So can we dive into the first betrayal that was in the O'Carroll clan?

The O'Carrolls, known for their violent and brutal role, were notorious even by the standards of the feuding Gaelic Lords.

The family was deeply embroiled in power struggles and like many other Irish clans of the time, internal betrayals and murder were not uncommon.

What do you think?

These people just decided they wanted a castle.

They just went and basically just killed and pillaged and stole this castle.

Is there really honor amongst thieves?

These are the people that are doing all your bidding and all that.

I'm not seeing them really being too proud to just be like, yeah, I'm not going to cut your head off.

Yeah.

In 1532, the clans chieftain at the time, Moldrooney O'Carroll died, which caused an internal conflict amongst the clan on who was going to be the successor and the new chieftain.

The next of kin, Thaddeus O'Carroll, who was also a priest in the family, would take the lead, but he never got the opportunity.

Bum bum bum.

You want to know why?

Is it the Bloody Chapel incident?

Hell yeah, it is.

Corey gives me really good notes.

I can follow along.

During Mass one day, the younger brother of Thaddeus, Teague.

I think it's Teague or Teig.

It's T-E-I-G-E.

Teague.

Teague.

That's what I thought it was.

Yeah.

Teague O'Carroll came into Mass, rushed his brother and stabbed him to death with a knife or a sword.

Tommy Gunn.

Yeah, Tommy Gunn.

I don't know if it was a knife or a sword, but stabbed him with something sharp.

I mean, it has to be something sharp.

You're not going to stab him.

Sharp num-chucks.

Yeah.

Stabbed him with a spoon.

Yeah.

That would suck.

Yeah.

So he stabbed him to death, causing him to bleed out at the altar.

Right in front of everybody.

In front of the entire family, giving the room the nickname, the Bloody Chapel.

The Bloody Chapel.

So he killed his brother and then became the chieftain of this clan.

How does that work?

There's no red flags.

I don't know.

Teague might be kind of off his fucking rocker that he's just like, he just ran through mass and just stabbed his brother.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Well, rules are rules.

He's going to take over.

He's the next to kin.

Next in line.

Got to go.

His little brother is just looking at him like, oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

Next.

There are many different ideas as to why Teague killed his brother.

Was Thaddeus having an affair with Teague's wife?

Did Thaddeus simply start mass without his brother's presence, which was a huge act of disrespect?

Boy, that would be something though.

Yeah.

My God, that would be something.

You dare start reading the Bible without me?

Yeah, you son of a bitch.

Even if I am two hours late?

Yeah.

Or did Teague just want to be the chieftain of the clan and felt that the only way of making this happen was to take out his brother?

I don't know why in such I guess if you go and kill him in front of everybody, that is the ultimate assertion of dominance.

Yeah, power like, I'm in charge now.

Yeah.

Y'all answer to me and Betty and he holds up like his like 12 foot sword.

Yeah.

That's what I'm picturing.

Just a 12 footer, but like he went running down the aisle, dragging that thing behind him.

Or just a little two-incher.

Well, yeah, it could be.

Yeah.

Either way, you had one in each hand.

Yeah.

The O'Carrolls were supposedly involved in many battles and massacres that occurred on the property and in the walls of the castle.

There were even a lot of other murders amongst the O'Carroll clan as people were always fighting for power and trying to be the top dog.

And the more I was reading about this, the more I just kept thinking about like Game of Thrones and just all of that craziness and fighting and murdering and family members and power and this and that.

And I'm sure that's how it was to back in the day.

Like, yeah, I feel like these stories have to like, obviously, they're fictional stories, but they have to come to light from something.

Yeah, you know, it seems like every great story, great book, great movie.

They're like even like Star Wars.

I think I can't remember.

Like Star Wars is based off like World War II or something like that.

Like every like big movie franchise is still based off of something.

And the reason too, like I thought about, I mean, I never watched all of Game of Thrones.

Like I know my wife watched the whole thing.

Like I watched a good chunk of it here and there.

Like when she was watching it, I would watch it with her and stuff like that.

But I know there was an episode called like the Bloody.

The Red Wedding.

The Red Wedding.

Yeah, Red Wedding.

Red Wedding.

So like I thought of like the Bloody Chapel.

Yeah, that was the first when you said about Game of Thrones.

That was the first thing I thought of.

Yeah, the Red Wedding.

Yeah.

So like it made me think of like with the Bloody Chapel, like did they get parts of, you know, that ideas for that episode from this?

Man, that show pissed me off so bad their last season.

Yeah, I watched the last season, yeah.

Man, it pissed me off.

Like you just set this thing up for years and years to just end it on like five episodes.

What a bunch of garbage.

I mean, I don't feel as strongly about this as I do Halloween ends.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, God.

You brought that up in a while.

It's been a while.

Just you won't get into it.

It's been a while.

I bet you freaking Halloween ends Michael Meyers.

He was he probably who plotted this last season of Game of Thrones.

A son of a bitch.

Yeah, he's behind it all.

God damn it.

Freaking right.

Where the director was.

I won't even look up the director's name because I just don't want that piece of shit in my brain ever.

Yeah.

I'm going to look it up right now.

What else did the fucker direct?

You're right.

I am looking up right now.

Son of a bitch.

Directed by David Gordon Green.

My gosh, I don't even like the color green anymore after that.

He directed some good things, I think.

Like what?

He directed all the Halloween movies, so like all the last, like in the trilogy at the end.

My boy Danny McBride like produced or directed some of those movies.

He was like a co-director?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know which ones it was.

Halloween ends he was on.

So yeah.

So you can suck a ball too.

He wrote.

He helped write it, which is worse, which is worse, which is worse.

All right.

Just close that.

Yeah.

You're right.

I'm next.

I don't want to know anymore.

Done.

I don't know anymore.

So talking about the O'Carroll clan and other clans and families during this time, not only Ireland, but like other parts of the world, it was very hard to follow the family tree because of, I would say, two reasons that I got here.

Two reasons.

Incest.

Three reasons.

Three reasons.

Insects.

Insecticides.

OK.

On to the next section, Corey.

Nailed that one.

Here's what I got.

We would sum that up in three words.

Shitty records.

Yeah, that is the theme of the episode, I would say.

Shitty records.

No record keeping during that time.

Also, every other generation used names from previous generations.

Oh, balls.

And it wasn't even like, you know, it wasn't even like, you know, John Jacob the first, John Jacob the second, John Jacob the third.

It was like, this generation would name their son John.

And then like two generations later, they would name their son John.

Just one son, though.

They wouldn't name like, multiple sons.

No, yeah, just like one son.

Like, they would like, every other generation would name, they'd name the freaking kid John.

Yeah, so there's like 300 Johns in this family.

Yeah, in this tree.

And it's like, how the hell, when there's no record keeping, everybody's naming each other the same goddamn name.

That's probably where Jingleheimer Schmitt came from.

Probably.

La la la la la la la.

Yeah, that's, you're probably right.

Yeah.

Oh, I know.

Yeah, that would be a pain in the ass.

Yeah, so like everybody, they had like three family names.

Well, it's because they knew how to spell that.

Yeah.

They would just.

Yeah, they would just rotate through.

Yeah.

Like, all right, John was used.

Where are we at?

Oh, we're at Fred.

Okay, Fred.

Like, and they just.

They just alternate.

Back to John.

We used our other four names.

They even did that in, like, Game of Thrones, too.

Yeah.

All right.

So we got done with the Bloody Chapel incident and all that.

What about the secret dungeon found within the castle?

Dude, this part is nuts.

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like anytime we're talking about a secret dungeon, the shit's about to get real.

It could be fun.

It could be fun.

Somebody's into that shit.

Yeah.

You're freaking right.

I am.

Oh.

That's what I'm saying.

It could be fun if you're into that.

So it should be fun for you.

One for me.

I'm him.

Talk me right into it.

Sometime in the 1900s.

Oh, so we're really-

I'm going back.

This is just-

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I'm like, I'm kind of bouncing around a little bit because they bounce around with shit, so I'm bouncing around with shit.

You do you, boy.

I will.

I'll bounce.

You go, girl.

The one guy, so I'll be done getting a soft topic after this, but the guy I work with, so I'm like a crew of like three or four of us, who we worked together for a long time.

The one guy I'll say like, I think we should do yada, yada, yada.

My coworker who got a picture like 53, 54 year old guy who is just like, he's from that generation, kind of gruff.

He'll just always look at him and just be like, you go girl.

Dude, I lose my mind every time.

It makes me laugh so hard every time.

Oh, you go girl.

Every time.

That's Corey without the E.

Oh, yeah.

He listens to this cast too, doesn't he?

Yeah, he does.

Big rivals here.

I've discussed this with both ends, and they are both.

Did I tell you the story about when he met the kid?

No.

So, he was at a store or whatever, and I think there's a kid kind of running around, and my coworker Corey's going, and the mom yelled over Corey.

Corey looked over, because you hear your name, he's going to look over.

She was yelling at her kid, and she goes, oh, I'm sorry.

My coworker Corey looks at him, and he goes, oh, your name's Corey, too.

And the kid just looks at him dead serious.

He goes, yeah, how do you spell it?

And Corey goes, C-O-R-Y.

He goes, the right way.

Okay, we're cool.

And just walks away.

And so if you didn't know, the butt crack over here spells it C-O-R-E-Y.

So, but yeah, I forgot.

I've always wanted to tell you that story, that the kid is just like totally like, all right, cool.

He spells it the right way too.

Yeah, he's cool.

There's a huge rivalry between the non-E's and the E's in that.

I remember when I told him, like, you know, you're Corey with an E, and he just said, screw that, dude.

Like, immediately, like, I don't need to know anything about that guy.

He's an idiot.

It's just, it's funny.

Yeah.

Well, if you don't spell it with an E, you fill in the blank.

I'm not going to say it.

Okay.

All right.

So sometime in the 1900s, there were some archaeologists, and either, I don't know if they're archaeologists digging around this place, or if there were people there doing renovations, whatever it was, there were people there digging around this property, this place, the castle.

And in the Bloody Chapel, they discovered an Oubliot or Secret Dungeon.

Ooh.

And typically, like during this time, the main use for these Secret Dungeons or Oubliots were to store valuables or like a place to hide in the event of a siege.

It's like a vault, almost, or like a safe house type thing.

Yeah, like a safe room or something that people go hide.

So were these actually like a part of the castle or separate from the castle?

It was a part of the castle.

It was just kind of like, like, you know, when Scooby Doo and shit, there's like, you know, you move a bookcase and then you're back in like another freaking dimension.

That makes sense.

So this was like walled off over time.

Something like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So typically that's what it was used for.

However, the O'Carroll clan used it for a much sinister reason.

Ooh, butt stuff.

Worse.

Ooh, ooh, I mean, I mean, this.

Something could have went up there, but.

All right, let's see.

Let's hear it.

So they discovered that there was a trap door and floor of the Bloody Chapel.

That dropped people down into a spiked pit where the people were impaled.

So kind of butt stuff.

Yeah, that's what I said.

That's what I said.

Like if they're going butt down, yeah, they're getting something up.

Do you think that's like, like, it's so crazy to me to do something like that in a chapel?

Yeah, like it makes it even worse that like that stuff happened in a chapel, especially if these people were so like religious and stuff too.

Yeah.

So like, I figure I think of when we kind of talk about like ghost stories and how ghosts came about and then you talk about stuff like that happening within a chapel, with like, quote unquote, like God's walls of this place.

That's like even worse.

Yeah.

And when it was demonic.

Yes.

I'm going to bring up that word then.

I know.

I can't wait.

You'd freaking bring it up regardless.

I will.

I already did.

You're due for some demonics.

You brought that shit up in a while.

I am.

We're going to bring that shit back.

Yeah, let's bring it.

So when investigating further, they found hundreds of human skeletons.

Hundreds.

Hundreds that were impaled on the spikes in all over this dungeon.

Yeah, because it's not like somebody's going in and cleaning them up.

No.

So I wonder what happens if you're finally the lucky enough guy and you fall through the trap door.

There's so many bodies that you just land on bodies and not spikes.

And then you just walk out, I guess.

I don't know.

So like a door to the exit or you just die like laying there because there's nowhere to go.

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, it's just a dungeon to nowhere.

That would suck worse than the spikes, I think.

Yeah, which all right, this is really off topic, but you ever see what the hell is it called that like is it putty cave or something?

That dude that was like he was a cave like what's it called like a spunker?

What's a spunker?

When you go into like the like cave diver type.

Yeah, like a cave diver.

You go into those like real tight ones I think.

Yeah, I don't remember where it was.

I see it pop up on Facebook all the time on these pages I follow, but like this dude got stuck and he was in there for like 27 hours and died.

They couldn't bring him out because of the angle that he went through this crack.

I did see that.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Like every time I see that, like my butthole just like shrivels up.

Dude, when I see it, because once in a while it'll pop up on like YouTube, because the people do it like when they're diving and stuff underwater.

But any of the I'm pretty sure it's called like, I think it's called like Putty Cave or something where like the cave you went into the one.

Yeah, it's like they ended up they ended up sealing off the cave.

So like his body just it's in there still.

Like they sealed the cave off.

Let me look up Splunking.

Sounds sexual.

It does.

I didn't do any Splunking.

Exploring of caves, especially as a hobby.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, dude, that's all today, actually.

They like give me such anxiety.

Yeah.

So I had to crawl behind my couch the other day.

You know, we have that like sectional and has the automatic feet up and down, you know, automatic recliners.

And the kids crawl back there and stuff.

So it gets unplugged, of course.

I was crawling back there the other day and my wife wasn't home.

Like nobody was home.

And it's like, I could die in here right now.

Just crawl behind my couch.

It's like, what if I die?

Because it's like in a back corner.

So there's not I don't have that much leverage or anything.

Dude, it gives me such anxiety just to go back there to plug in.

I have to do it once a week for probably like four years.

And I get anxiety over going back there.

I fucking get stuck going to plug in the galaxy.

Can you imagine?

Marietta comes down the next day and it's just like my dead feet there.

I don't know why I would die.

Like I just gave up.

Yeah.

God, take me away.

I've been in here for like 16 minutes.

This is insane.

Yeah.

Shit.

Yeah.

Screw that though, man.

I did not like that.

Every time I see that, like if you look up the picture, they have a picture and show what the cave looked like and like where he, yeah, like every time I saw it today, like I said, and like every time I see that, like, oh man, get that shit off my Facebook.

Yeah.

I don't want to see that.

But yeah, a lot of these groups and stuff, I mean, they like share that shit at least once a week.

Why?

I don't know.

Just to give people the heebie-jeebies.

Yeah.

Pretty much.

Also, so the dungeon, so like I said, it was used as a trap door.

They would just throw people down it.

They laid on the spikes.

They'd die.

But this dungeon was pretty big.

I think there was another entry to the dungeon, and they would also use it to house prisoners as well.

So they could still get into the dungeon another way.

Yeah.

I think there was another way.

There's a bazillion dead bodies down here, and we're just going to put you prisoners.

Yeah.

I don't know if you need something to eat, go gnaw on Fred over there.

Yeah.

It's still fresh.

Yeah.

Fresh enough.

Yeah.

So then the O'Carrolls' brutality continues.

And like I said, how powerful and stuff they were earlier.

It seemed like they wanted complete control and domination and didn't seem to ever have enough power and control of the area.

And really, they're just going after maybe all of Ireland.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know for sure.

Like at least this area where this castle was, for sure.

And legend says that the O'Carroll clan used to employ other clans as mercenaries to eliminate nearby threats.

Yeah.

That's called subcontracting.

You know what they would say?

It's easy.

Just subcontracting.

It's no big deal.

Yeah.

And if I'm another clan and I know this O'Carroll clan is just big and bad as hell and they're just like, hey, good buy some good graces.

You go whoop up on some of them people.

It's like, yeah, sure.

You know, you leave me alone.

That's cool.

Like just give me my little corner.

That's what you think.

So here's what happens.

After the job was completed, the O'Carrolls would invite the allies back to Leap Castle for a feast or they would be poisoned and have their throats cut.

Poisoned.

Like, ooh.

Yeah.

So they would poison them, son of bitches, cut their throats, and then they would murder them and they would throw them in the Oobulette.

Oobulette?

The fucking thing I said earlier.

The Oobulette?

The fucking dungeon.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know why you said Oobulette.

I'm like, dang, is that like a fancy stew?

So they would just-

Dude, that's shitty to poison, like even back then, because I know poisoning, that's where Cheers came from, Cheers and Glasses from people poisoning and stuff, and that's always like the biggest sissy way to kill somebody.

So yeah, they would just hire people, then they'd bring them back, celebrate, have a feast.

They'd poison them, cut their throats, and then they'd throw them in this fricking hole.

Yeah, boy, I couldn't have been more wrong when I said like, oh yeah, that's great.

Yeah.

You would have been thrown in a goddamn hole too.

You're right, I would have.

It's great food.

Oh, thanks for the beer.

Oh yeah.

They'd have to do poison and ale.

Yeah.

I'd be like the one guy where the poison doesn't affect me, but it just makes me super drunk.

Yeah.

So I'm like, come on, boys, let's go, I'll fight all of you.

Here comes Teej's little two-inch knife.

I assume he's still in charge.

He's got to be still be in charge.

I'm sure there's a Teej somewhere.

Oh yeah.

Or a Teej somewhere.

There's like the sixth one.

Yeah.

I'll fight all six of you son of a bitches.

There's only one of us.

There was a clan, the O'Neill Clan, and approximately 40 members of this O'Neill Clan were said to be disposed of in this manner.

Damn.

So like 40 of these son of bitches were from this other clan, you know, where he uses mercenaries, brought back, killed, thrown down in the hole.

That ain't good.

Yeah.

I just state the most obvious thing.

That ain't good.

That ain't good.

Yeah.

In 1599, the last chieftain of Leap Castle, Charles O'Carroll, was at war with the Earl of Tyrone, and hired the McMahon Clan.

Oh, that's got to be descendants of Vince McMahon.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So he's bringing like Hulk Hogan, the Undertaker, the Undertaker, the Undertaker, the Undertaker.

The O'Carrolls hired this McMahon Clan as mercenaries to help fight the battle against Earl of Tyrone.

After helping the O'Carrolls, a feast was held at the castle where the entire McMahon Clan was murdered in their sleep.

In their sleep.

Yeah.

They must have been sleeping good.

Yeah.

So at least they got to eat and enjoy some drinks.

Yeah, you're right.

And then after murdering these people, they would just throw the bodies in the pit.

I could just imagine just like hearing about like this stinky ass pit, like how bad do you think this fricking place, like the whole, the castle and then the pit alone, like how bad do you think this place had to be disgusting, disgusting when then you think all the BO the mercenaries.

Yeah.

Because like they've just been out fighting all day, you know, it's like, I know I get stinking after a day or two.

Yeah.

Maybe it's just like the guys stunk so bad that it was just like they just assumed it was themselves.

Yeah.

They walked in and smelled this nasty pit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Could have been.

So I want to ask you a question.

OK.

So like we're talking about how bad this place stunk.

What's like the worst thing you've ever smelled?

And before you answer, I don't want to I don't want you to say like my two week old underwear sitting in a Porter potty on a hot July summer day.

Like, no, I want to know for real.

What's the smelliest thing you've ever smelled with your sniffer?

Smelliest thing.

Do you have something like you could think I do have something?

Hit me with yours first.

I have two, actually, I have two.

Hit me with it a little bit because I can't think of it.

I don't know.

I'm not like a big like smell person.

You know what I mean?

Like I can I can go in some pretty nasty ass situations and not smell them.

Yeah.

And I'll tell you a story about when I know like one of my coworkers stinkiest times and it was me.

Anyways, go ahead.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's probably right.

You're so stinky that nothing else smells bad.

It could be, dude.

Like, it's just I don't know.

Yeah, me.

Well, yeah, not that bad.

All right.

So I got like two, like the one it's probably back in like high school, like my junior, senior year.

I remember I was out driving.

I don't know where I was driving, but I was driving down the road in our town and I started like it was summer, like probably it was like 95 degrees out all windows down.

Like I'm just cruising and I started smelling something like really bad, really fricking bad.

I get to a red light and right in front of me.

Is it pigs or chickens?

Deer.

Deer.

Oh, they have the legs sticking up out of the back of it.

It was an old pickup truck.

They were picking up all the dead roadkill, all the deer.

He's got the little like winch on the back.

Did you ever see?

We followed him before and he has a little winch that he could just swivel off just to pick them up and swing them back in.

You'll pull up there and all you see is legs sticking up in the air.

Yeah, that stinks, dude.

Yeah, that thing smelled bad.

I was right behind it.

Yeah, I can see that.

And then I think the other one, my second smelliest, is I worked in a chicken factory for five years in high school, first year college.

And whenever we would get a rotten egg, go through there and break, that whole place would just fill up with the smelliest, the stinkiest fricking smell that you could imagine.

And I remember some of us had to step outside for a couple of minutes because it would just fill up the entire place.

It was back.

So I remember hearing this story second hand, but I'm going to say this would be what I can imagine being the stinkiest thing ever.

So they had to do a job at work, and it was right outside a dumpster that was outside of this really shitty Chinese restaurant.

And it was like 100 degree day on that day.

And they said just the stuff dripping out of that thing.

I would say the stinkiest one for me is going out the one road out of town.

They were spreading some like manure or whatever on those fields, but it was it wasn't like human feces.

It was like some kind of feces.

Yeah, it wasn't human feces, because some of them do spray the human shit out there, you know.

I remember a guy saying when they spread the human, you'd have to go out there and pick up the condoms and the tampons out of the thing, because they just get like that like straight from the like straight from the like, I don't know, treatment plant type things.

But they were they were using some kind of like chicken shit on these fields.

But it wasn't like like normal chicken shit really stinks as that gross smell.

Whatever this was, or whatever this was mixed with to be a fertilizer on these fields was like just beyond disgusting.

Oh, it's just wrong.

It smelled like it was like chicken shit mixed with human shit mixed with pig shit.

Like it was all being spread on the field.

All kinds of shit.

Yeah, dude.

It was like it was so just overload, sensory overload on my nose.

I thought it was disgusting.

Yuck.

Yeah.

But yeah, I can just.

Yeah.

I wanted to ask you that because like, I just imagine how bad this fricking place smelled.

Yeah.

Like all.

They just keep throwing dead bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies.

Well, maybe it was a little bit cooler down there too.

So maybe it didn't get quite as stinky.

I don't know.

I mean, even when you get just like a dead house in the wall, that thing sticks up your whole house.

Yeah, it does.

So having a hundred bodies.

Yeah, I don't know.

Under your fricking.

Yeah, I don't know.

I had a deer head sitting on my porch for like two months.

I kept forgetting about and our whole like it was on our porch and our whole basement started to stink bad.

Like Marietta had me down there doing a doing like a search for something dead down there.

And that's what I realized.

Like, I know what this is on the porch.

Dude.

Oh, I actually I might have to change my I might have to put this at number two and the chicken egg at three.

When I used to work with the juveniles, son of a bitch kids.

So we had they'd make their homemade dildos and stuff.

Yeah.

But this wasn't that.

Okay.

So we had a pond at the property.

So like we would take them fishing and stuff in it, right?

Well I guess one of these son of a bitches cut off like a fish head, put it in a tackle box and put it in the one office.

I remember the one day I was I was I thought I called the fuck I dude I called like like the sewage like company and stuff.

I had people out there like plumbers and stuff because I thought like this because we had a septic.

Yeah.

I thought there was a problem with the septic.

The guys out there he's like oh this hasn't been drained and did it did it did it like you need to have this drained.

And I'm like so like they come out they drain it and stuff and like I still smell it I'm like what I'm like freaking out like trying to and then I go in the office and like I open up this tackle box it's just this fish head that was just sitting in there for like why keep it yeah I don't know I want to make love to it later yeah yeah so that that was that was freaking bad dude that was bad I remember one time I ate some really bad sauerkraut or something and we were at work I was working late with a couple guys we were like digging this hole at work and I left this like just nasty fart like I mean nasty worst probably worst I ever left like top three top one these farts like this group of farts that was coming out of my gut at this time were probably the stinkiest I ever was my wife like top five farts all in a row yeah same day so we were digging this hole and I was just like dirt stinks so both these two guys on each side leaned over this hole and took a whiff I'm laughing of course you know and the next thing I know I see the one guy's just over dry heaving in front of the truck and I had I had one loaded up in the chamber like ready to let loose but I couldn't do that to him because I liked him too much if it would have been the other guy like there's two of them that leaned over the guy that I think if it was the one guy I would just let that thing fly but it wasn't him it was the other one it's just like I can't do that so I'll ruin his whole dinner for like three weeks yeah oh man anywho anywho back to back to the podcast YouTube's not gonna like that too much you guys won't people at YouTube are angry man yeah they say we talk way too much they're assholes they are I'll say right now they're asshole they are it's going back to the O'Carrolls O'Carrolls we're gonna talk about the red lady the red lady I'm gonna give a little bit of a just a trigger warning here to the folks to the people trigger warning for this lady because if you can imagine Carol's had this lady what happened so not sure of the year but at some point in time there was a young woman who was held captive by the O'Carroll clan she would routinely be raped eventually becoming pregnant and when she became pregnant and gave birth to her child the O'Carrolls killed the baby immediately and it is said that the red lady took her life after after they killed the baby I think she like ran off and it's saying that she like stabbed herself killed herself that they know yeah so like these O'Carroll clans were bastards yeah like you're talking about the perfect I guess situation for some paranormal stuff going on you got some bastards like that doing yeah yeah that's bad news that's bad so eventually these guys they're they're just rain of terror came to an end yeah thank god yeah for sure to what happened there so towards the end of the 17th century the O'Carroll rain came to an end one of the O'Carroll woman when women yeah I'm gonna correct myself one day that woman woman we're back down to Louisiana I gotta remember we're not in Ireland this week.

I don't know if that's for better or for worse as far as the English goes, but we'll see.

So one of the O'Carroll women fell in love with a fella named Captain Darby, an Englishman who the O'Carrolls were keeping locked up in the dungeon.

So this Captain Darby was one of their prisoners.

The O'Carroll woman would bring Captain Darby things and eventually helped him escape.

I'm going to call her Lady, Lady O'Carroll.

Lady O'Carroll.

I don't know her first name, so that's what we're going to go with.

Beth.

Beth, sure.

She was a big woman, but a woman that could be loved nonetheless.

That's right.

So Lady O'Carroll's brother, you know, Brother O'Carroll.

Sounds like a WWE faction is being formed right now.

Brother Jeevon, bring the table.

Get the table.

So Lady O'Carroll's brother, O'Carroll, tried to stop this escape and a sword fight occurred between him and Captain Darby.

Captain Darby killed Lady O'Carroll's brother.

So O'Carroll brother, O'Carroll dude, guy.

I think he was the chieftain too at the time.

The chief big turd.

Yeah, he got flushed.

He's dead.

Gone.

Which resulted in Lady O'Carroll becoming the highest member of the O'Carroll clan and taking control of the castle.

Oh, Queen O'Carroll we're at.

Oh, Queen O'Carroll, O'Carroll.

We threw a Q in there somewhere.

I made a new word.

Queen O'Carroll.

Yeah, might have been queer.

Time will tell.

Yeah.

And then, so after this happened, it's just funny.

Like, I just, I don't know.

I just, I picked, this is just funny.

Like, many members of the Darby family then started moving into the castle.

So like, I just picture them all.

You gotta get us a piece of that.

I just picture them all like lined up, just coming in with like, their suitcases and shit.

Like, being like the Beverly Hillbillies, you know?

Yeah.

So they all freaking come, they move into the castle.

Came to the ground, came to bubbling gold.

So they all move into the castle, and then the Darbys started renovating the castle and updating it since at this point of time, this son of a bitch was just falling apart in just a complete stanky old mess.

Yeah, the place got, there's no windows.

I mean, there's no glass in the windows.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, they'll do, man.

They'll do.

Black mold.

They'll do black mold everywhere.

Yeah, it's a moldy old, moody mess.

I second that.

I second that thought.

Louisiana is coming back out of me.

As bad as he was at his Louisiana accent when we talked in Louisiana, he is just thriving today.

Yeah, it is perfect.

New Orleans.

Yeah.

Jodem.

Yeah, Jodem.

Oh, bitch.

Sorry.

I love it.

Lady O'Carroll and Captain Darby then had a son named Jonathan Darby.

Jonathan Darby hid many treasures in the floors and walls of the castle during the English Civil War.

The Darbys were like English fellas, English men, family, whatever you want to say.

Two servants assisted him in hiding these treasures.

So like he's like, you know, yo, help me put this over here, put this over there.

Yo, hey, get over here, bud.

I need to shove this in this wall.

Yeah.

Covered up nice and well.

He was still proper.

He wasn't an animal.

He wanted to sit nice and deep like, but he's like, nice and well.

Yeah, nice and well.

And then Jonathan Darby murdered these servants to ensure their silence because he didn't want them to know.

Yeah, he wasn't that nice of a guy then, huh?

Yeah, he didn't want them to go.

I feel like I'm like, oh, for whatever I say, like, oh, that's a good idea.

Yeah.

Yeah, but then they died.

It's like, okay, maybe not the best.

Yeah.

So even these Darbys were son of a bitches.

Yeah.

And then at some point in time, Jonathan was eventually imprisoned for treason.

When he was set free years later, he went back to the castle to try to find his treasures.

However, due to the renovations of the castle and the overall layout changing, he was never able to find his treasures, which are apparently still there to this day.

Yeah.

So which means he had like, like, I don't know, a couple like Hank Aaron baseball cards that are worth like 48 bucks today.

It's all he had.

It wasn't much.

Yeah.

All right.

So now we're getting into the legendary Mildred Darby.

Mildred.

We're not talking about Mildew.

We're talking about Mildred and her black magic.

Yes.

So Mildred Darby was married to Jonathan Darby, which was...

Oh, yeah, John there, bud.

It's not the Jonathan Darby we talked about earlier.

This is like the great grandson.

Of course, it's not the same one we've been talking about.

This is like the...

All right.

So this Jonathan Darby is the great grand...

This is just me trying to figure this out, so this can be completely wrong.

But what I figured out is like this is like the great grandson of Captain Darby and Lady O'Carroll's kid, Jonathan.

Dun, dun, dun.

Oh, it's in his...

Or it's not.

It doesn't matter.

It's just somewhere down the food chain.

In the early 1900s...

So we're getting...

We're getting to more modern times.

Oh, yeah.

1900s, man.

We're really getting into it.

Early 1900s, Mildred Darby began experimenting with black magic and doing seances.

I can't see how anything bad would happen from this.

While living at Lep Leap Castle.

Lep Leap.

Lep Leap.

Lep Leap.

So while she was living at the castle, she started experimenting with this bullshit on in the castle.

Where you've already kind of set the stage for a lot of heinous things happening.

Yeah.

Trauma, deaths, rape.

Anal spikes going up butts.

Babies.

Babies.

Yeah.

A lot of not good stuff.

Yeah.

But to say the least, I feel like that's like a modest way to put it.

A lot of not good stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of fucked up shit.

Yeah.

That's the way it should be.

Is that better?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's even the way it should be.

Woo.

Rick Flair.

So it is said that she unleashed an elemental spirit in the castle.

An elemental spirit is-

Break down an elemental spirit because we did an episode, I don't know, maybe a month or so ago where I broke down different spirits.

I kept it to like five.

Six was the elemental spirit.

You cut that shit out because you didn't understand it, which I don't understand either, but I'm going to try.

And I know Jenny kind of like briefly brought up elemental spirits at Pennhurst when we interviewed her and stuff.

So let's see, like try and explain an elemental spirit.

I'm going to try to get into it.

Yeah.

At least what I figured out, but like it took me like two days of straight just thinking about this, looking at stuff to really break her down.

Yeah.

An elemental spirit is a type of spirit that attaches.

I'm going to go.

Okay.

So I'm just buckle up.

Yeah.

I'm just going to soak it in.

I'm not going to say anything.

I'm going to get to the whole thing.

It's going to be a freaking ride.

I want something like totally lost.

I'm going to say something.

Because we're talking about Mildred.

Mildred Darby.

Darby now.

And then we're going to go into a whole section on the elemental.

So it's going to be a nice little ride.

So we're just going to go on Mildred right now.

We're just doing talking about Mildred right now.

Yes.

All right.

So an elemental spirit is a type of spirit.

I thought we were talking about Mildred.

No, this is in the Mildred section, you son of a bitch.

All right.

All right.

All right.

All right.

Just shut up.

My bad.

That's on me.

That's on me.

All right.

God damn it.

An elemental spirit is a type of spirit that attaches itself to a specific location and can be very terrifying, evil, and unpredictable.

Many believe the elemental was a spirit that was already present in the land before the castle was built, possibly connected to the ancient druidic site where the castle stands.

So this is when we're diving back to where the land originally came from.

Yeah, we talked about that a little bit.

Yeah, so saying like the elemental, they think, was linked back to...

Conjured up back then?

Back when the druids were on this land.

So is this where like spirits are like conjured up in these locations?

You're gonna see here.

OK, OK, sorry.

I'm just I'm really trying to wrap my head around that elemental.

It's yeah, it's some rocket science.

That I am not a rocket scientist.

Yes, yes.

So like the land was very fertile, so it was a great importance to the druids.

The druids might have called upon an elemental for protection for their sacred land.

So did Mildred conjure up an elemental that was connected to the druids who had the land prior to the castle being built?

That's like the big question.

You know, is this elemental already in the land, her doing all her weird shit that she was doing in the castle?

Did that exasperate it to bring it back?

Yeah.

Pull this little dinkle berry right out.

That hurts.

Oh yeah, if it's attached.

Yeah.

So if I was a dinkle berry, I would not be happy if I got pulled out.

No.

In 1909, Mildred gave an interview to a magazine called Journal Occult Review.

A magazine?

The 1909?

Yeah.

All right.

That's cool.

In which she claimed, I was in the gallery and looked at the floor.

You're killing it, man.

Keep that accent up and don't change it at all.

The thing had the size of a sheep and it was thin and shadow-like.

The face was human and it was not.

His decomposed eyes showed some kind of lust.

Man, you're turning me on a little bit right now.

At that point, I smelled a horrible smell, which made me ill.

It was the smell of a decomposing body.

That's all she said.

Okay.

All right.

Yes, you killed it.

You killed it.

It really put me in the spirit of this.

Now, I feel like I'm Mildred.

I feel like I just talked to Mildred.

So she had this experience with this elemental.

This was an interview that she did in the magazine.

In this magazine.

Okay.

She said it was the size of a sheep.

What was?

The elemental?

Yeah, the elemental.

All right.

I just ask him for the people.

And it was shadow like the face was human.

Sunken in eyes or something with the eyes.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know where it is, but like basically it was like black hollowed out eyes basically is what what she said about this thing that she saw.

This is like a black eyed children.

She described as decomposed eyes that showed some kind of lust.

What?

That's weird.

I can't imagine like decomposed eyes.

So like eyes that are dead.

Yeah.

But also showing me that they want to bang me.

You know, it's like, you show me mixed singles here to say the least.

Yeah.

You get rid of that smell.

Yeah.

Maybe we can make some stuff happen.

I'd do like to be a good sheep or two.

Yeah.

We'll make some baby decomposed sheep, if you know what I mean.

Dang.

I don't know what you mean.

Explain it.

Use your imagination.

Okay.

Now we're digging.

Now we're going to dig into like the elemental spirits.

Yeah.

This is like where...

Yeah.

I really want to try and wrap my head.

And I might have questions for this part.

So like what I'm going to do here is I'm going to go over like elemental spirits and then kind of talk about like the elemental spirit at Leap Castle.

And then I'm going to put my like twist on things and how it makes sense to me.

Ken, and I think we talked about this in the five spirit episode.

So if you're not familiar with paranormal or different entities, go back to our five spirit episode.

Could this be one of those?

Because just when I hear about elementals, I feel like elementals and poltergeists are similar in a lot of ways.

And maybe like some of the demonic things are similar to an elemental, but they're also similar to a poltergeist.

I don't know.

There's a lot of them.

Well, that's what I'm going to talk about.

This is like, I picture this more as like a demonic entity than I do an elemental.

It seems like the energy of this castle would be like perfectly set up or something like this.

But all right, go on, explain.

Elemental spirits are mystical being connected to the basic elements of nature.

So fire, water, earth and air.

Just like Pokemans.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

Give me a Charmander.

Yeah, a Squirtle you.

Oh shit.

Yeah.

You didn't see that coming, did you?

I did not.

They can be either good or bad depending on how their powers are used.

These things are conjured up from the earth.

Yeah, they're like already, I don't know if they're necessarily conjured up by the earth, but they're already a part of the earth.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Good fire spirits bring warmth and light, while bad ones cause destruction in uncontrolled flames.

Okay.

Good water spirits nurture life through rain and calm waters, but bad ones bring floods, storms, and chaos.

Good earth spirits protect the land, helping plants grow and keeping the earth strong, while bad ones cause earthquakes and landslides.

Good air spirits create gentle winds and fresh air, while bad ones stir up dangerous storms and hurricanes.

The way I think about it is kind of like Mother Nature.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

When you always hear like, oh, Mother Nature is pissed off.

I think of this as being like Mother Nature, more or less, is the way I kind of...

That's how I would say I would take it.

Yeah.

How does that...

Sorry if I'm getting ahead of myself, but how does that affect like within a castle?

So, elementals typically...

I think this might answer here.

Okay.

So, elementals typically represent the balance of nature, but when twisted, they can become harmful, representing chaos or destruction instead.

So, the elemental spirit at Leap Castle is often described as dark, malevolent presence, which makes it seem, like in my opinion, more like a demon.

Than a traditional elemental.

While elementals are usually tied to the natural world's balance, this spirit is connected to the chaos and negative energy of the castle's violent past.

So, does it feed off this energy?

Or is it because it's brought into a place that has this energy, it takes on this energy then?

Yeah, I think I'm going to get into that.

Okay.

Sorry.

No, that's okay.

Elementals are really complicated.

I spent a lot of time today, like, wrapping my head around the elementals.

And this is why it's just nice to have, like, somebody else to talk to about it, because I tried reading up on it and, like, I know, I read so much, and I'm like...

Yeah.

Over the centuries, Leap, sorry, America.

Leap Castle, number one.

USA, USA.

Yeah, we say Leap.

Leap Castle has seen many murders, betrayals and bloody events, which created a lot of negative energy.

Some believe this intense dark energy manifested into the spirit turning it into a malevolent force.

The spirit is aggressive, frightening, and harmful, which aligns more with how demons are described in folklore.

So while it's called an elemental, it acts more like a demonic entity, like born from the dark history of the castle and the negative emotions tied to it.

Which would make sense if you're talking a lot of demonic entity needs something to feed.

Because I feel like when we talked about Penhurst, there's a lot of the ghosts that are talked about that my brain goes to are demonic.

Like they feed on the fear and just the shitty things that happened in this area of the building.

So next, this is kind of how I envisioned the elemental with the castle.

So like I said, this whole concept is like very confusing.

It is.

So how I look at it is I think that it was very important to the druids to keep the land a sacred, pleasant place.

The druids being the original owners of the land?

The original of the land, yes.

So like I thought they really wanted the land to be sacred, a pleasant place, you know.

That they were really connected to the environment.

They really worshiped the elemental spirits and wanted to keep the land with just like overall positive energy and like positive vibes.

Which is when you start talking about people that worship the land and stuff like this, you start getting into witches and witchcraft at the same time.

Yeah, you're starting to...

I feel like the story is starting to throw a lot of different elements into it, which is awesome, which is perfect.

Yeah.

So then when the castle was built on the sacred area, it stirred some things up.

So like we already got this sacred area where the druids were once, you know, inhabiting or practicing stuff on.

It was supposed to be protected, untouched, like to nature.

Yeah.

Yes.

And now they build this castle on it.

And I think that started just building the castle on this land where they were just started to stir things up.

And then all the death and chaos that then transpired and the Mildred practicing black magic conjured up something evil that was connected to the land where the castle sits.

And then I think that this thing might not have been evil at first, but due to being conjured up into all of the bad negative energy that was there from all the death and bloodshed that happened, I think that it birthed like an evil elemental being that was, like I said, already there.

But when she conjured it up, you know, it might have been once good, you know, part of the earth or whatever it was.

So she she re-conjured it up, maybe.

Yeah.

So it was already conjured up, maybe by the original people, by the druids.

Okay.

And then I think when she like, yeah, when she brought it back, brought it back, gave it more power, it like it when it came, like, you know, when it came out of the earth or wherever it like all this negative energy, it just sucked it in and just instantly turned into this bad, evil, demonic being.

It's kind of what I think.

Yeah.

But that's just my thoughts.

I know.

It's a lot.

It's really a lot to wrap it.

I feel like when stuff is conjured up, it is really hard to get to the root of what this was, you know?

And I struggle and my brain struggles.

I mean, I can see how ghosts are and how ghosts become what they are.

But it's hard for me to think when somebody conjures up something in an evil, evil place like this, that you're not conjuring up something demonic.

And I get the elemental aspect of it, but I don't know.

It's just, it's weird, like how we have all this death, these people, these mercenaries or whatever were put to death, there's rape, there's children and babies being killed.

How is this not like a perfect gateway for demons really to enter this earth?

And when you're opening up this veil as she's doing with black magic, I feel like there's a reason it's called black magic and not like white wonderful magic.

You start getting in this black magic where you don't really know what you're conjuring up.

It's scary.

Yeah.

And I think you did a really good job at breaking down spiritual elements, stuff like that there.

I don't know.

I feel like you can find the root of almost every haunting from an elemental spirit standpoint, but also it's like not, I don't know.

I kind of struggle a bit to find the whole understanding of the elemental spirit.

Yeah, like I said, the way I look at it is just like mother nature.

Yeah, and I think that's the best way to describe it.

I didn't see that anywhere.

That's just the way that my brain like envisioned it.

I think of it as Pokemon starters.

You got a fire, you got a water, you got a grass.

Yeah.

At some point, you're going to find a ground Pokemon along the way.

You got all the you got all the spirits.

And we're just talking about the original Pokemon.

We're not getting into that other bullshit.

Well, every Pokemon is still a fire, water, grass starters.

At least I'm just talking just the original.

Fuck the rest.

No way.

The rest is still good.

I had a sleepover with my daughter last night.

We played we played Pokemon Pokemon on that.

You still got a gameboy.

I got a gameboy.

Yeah, I got a gameboy.

I do the emulators more on the computer.

You told me about that.

But yeah, I do.

We were on the Switch last night playing the latest Pokemon, Scarlet Violet.

So she is like she was super far almost to the end.

And she wanted to delete her file and start over.

And who am I to judge?

You know, like, I respect that.

That you want to go through the whole process again.

So that's what we did last night.

Anywho, hell, yeah.

I picked grass element.

Oh, I'm not a grass guy.

I'm usually a water guy.

I'm usually a water guy.

Yeah, like fire.

Fire.

So, yeah.

So can we so at some point this castle caught on fire.

Yeah, I did.

Yeah.

Speaking of elements, speaking of the fire starters, is this some Charizard type shit or what's going on here?

Yeah.

So there was a big dragon.

He was orange and no, he didn't listen to his trainer.

Yeah.

He was a wild Pokemon, like they say.

So I'm not 100 percent sure with who these people were, because I saw a couple of different things.

So the one thing I saw was that the IRA, the Irish Republican Army, destroyed parts of the Leap Castle.

But I also saw they were just civilians too.

So I'm not sure which one we're going to go with, but I'm just going with the Irish Republican Army because that's what I want to go with.

But it could have been civilians as well.

I feel like the IRA started out as civilians.

They were like an independent group.

So regardless, on July 30th, 1922, during the Irish Civil War, the castle at the time was still owned by the Darbys, who were associated with the British, and the Darbys were also living in England at this time.

The Irish Republican Army destroyed parts of Leap Castle, and the act of burning the castle was part of a wider campaign by the IRA to target large country houses belonging to the British landed class.

Essentially, it was a deliberate act of rebellion against the established power structure.

Nice.

So they were just going around burning, knocking down anything that had any type of association with the British.

Okay.

That makes sense.

A man named Richard Dawkins, who was living at Leap Castle at this time, being the caretaker of the castle.

So they had a caretaker living there while the Darbys were living over in England.

Okay.

So he was living there with his wife and then their baby.

It's just those two in this whole castle, like a caretaker, a baby, and a woman.

And just owning the castle, doing everything.

Living in the castle.

Frolicking.

Banging in every room.

Frolicking.

Even the freaking.

Dungeon.

Yes, the Ooblet.

The Ooblet.

I don't know if I said that right.

I didn't have a little breakdown of papers.

So in the middle of the night, there was a knock at the door.

It was the Ooblet coming.

I got my spikes, and I'm ready to freaking go, buddy.

Ready to go bend over, boy.

When he opened the door, a group of several men held him at gunpoint and told him they were going to burn the castle down.

He pleaded with them.

How are people going to burn like a stone castle?

I don't get it.

I know.

I think of that too.

I think of that too.

How hot your fire?

I know.

I think it's a sick thing.

Yeah.

He pleaded with them to let him get his wife and child out of the castle first.

They agreed.

Reasonable.

I mean, they're not maniacs.

They're not O'Carrolls.

Yeah.

They're not.

Yeah.

It's like, that's all right.

You get your wife and kid out and then we'll burn it down.

Yeah.

After you got them out, they poisoned them.

I'm just kidding, but they did.

The men began dumping patrol, or in our neck of the words, words, words, words.

We like to say gas.

Gas.

Yeah.

Over the castle.

That's what my daughter calls when we stop for gas.

She calls it petrol.

Really?

Yeah.

She watches Bluey all the time.

Shit.

Yeah.

Damn.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They dumped it all over the castle and they set her on fire.

I'm just not sure how you're going to, I'm just not sure how this plays out.

I feel like the gas, it would just burn out and then like, we're good.

So this Richard dude, so this, this kind of dick, this dick, he was able to save some valuables in the castle by putting them into like another room.

So like sock.

So someone like, when I read this, I pictured him running back inside, getting his wife and kids and just saying like, Hey, they're coming to burn this shit down.

Like get out there.

And then him like spending the other time that they gave him.

Like the six minutes they gave him, because you don't give them much time, I would think.

I think they did, because maybe it's like you got, listen, bud, you got time.

We got to go cut down trees and we got to bring the petrol in.

And it's going to be a whole big long thing till we get to it.

But like I pictured him spending more time running around this, running around this castle and just like moving furniture and like decorative pieces and trying to get them into like, you know, like the middle of the castle or like safe areas that weren't going to burn.

Yeah.

Trying, you know, trying to keep it, yeah, like from the fires.

For sure.

And then the whole castle did not burn, only parts of it did.

Because it's made of stone.

Because it's made of stone, yeah.

You idiots.

Yeah.

They tried burning more of the castle than the next night.

And this rich...

They figured out that man.

Boy, I'll tell you what, this stone just don't burn like the wood dice.

Yeah.

Where's our wrecking ball?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

That didn't come out yet.

Yeah.

It's a good old Richard Dawkins attempted to save many of the artifacts and furniture in the castle and asked...

So this guy...

So as...

So like as they were trying to burn his place down, this dude's trying to save as much shit as he could in the castle.

Yeah.

And he asked the townspeople for help who were all standing there watching this place burn.

And I guess like when he's like, hey, can you help me?

Like we need to save some of this stuff.

They stood there laughing at him.

Yeah.

Like screw that.

You hear about the damn elemental spirit that hangs out there?

Yeah.

So like this dude just running in, running back out, running in, and these people are just standing there laughing at him.

Good for him.

He's trying.

He's doing his job to the best of his ability.

He is.

So then Jonathan Darby, and I'm not sure which Jonathan this is at the time.

Who knows anymore, man?

Who freaking knows?

Who was the current owner of the castle.

Or like some shit along his lines.

Some shit along those lines, he says.

Like he was somewhere in the Darby.

He was one of the Darbys.

Yeah.

He was number one.

He was number one.

Must have been the guy that invented the soda drink hat.

Yeah.

So this Jonathan Darby that we're talking about now.

He came back to the castle, you know, after living in frickin England or wherever he was living.

After these fires, he found what looked to be dynamite in the basement.

That was just untouched.

So like he went into the castle, found dynamite just sitting around untouched.

The worst mercenaries ever.

Yeah.

So like the thought was that these dudes that lit the place on fire got too drunk and were unable to function to use the dynamite to destroy portions of the castle.

Yeah.

It seems, it seems, it seems super likely to me.

Seems super like that's, I mean, that's yeah.

So then the castle laid in ruins until the property was purchased by an Australian historian, Peter Bartlett.

Australian, man, those Australians like buying like old.

Yeah, but listen to this shit.

So this Australian historian, Peter Bartlett, his mother.

Bartlett, more like Fartlett.

His mother was an O'Bannon.

Damn.

The people that built the castle.

The OGs.

The OGs.

The OGs.

She just woo right around in a full circle.

Yeah, you're freaking right.

Yeah.

It's like you may play the short game, but us O'Bannons will play the long game.

Yeah, we'll play the long game.

Okay.

800 years later.

Damn.

It's ours again.

That's crazy.

But then Bartlett and a builder worked.

So they worked extensively to restore the castle, but then Bartlett died in 1989.

Fartlett.

Sorry.

Just feel like it's disrespectful, but it's such an easy thing to say.

Bart fart.

I get it.

The castle was then purchased by the current owner, Sean and Ann Ryan.

Which Sean wouldn't return our emails, unfortunately.

We wanted to get him on for an interview.

I did want to get him on.

Yeah.

So they purchased the property in 1991, and since then, he's continued to restore the castle to what it is today.

And he must be busy with it if he can't hop on here for an interview.

Yeah.

Just say it, just say it.

So the Ryans have seen many spirits while living at the castle.

However, they have not seen the Elemental.

So when it was last seen...

So the Elemental was last seen in 2006.

And I'm assuming that...

How do they know that they saw the Elemental?

I'm guessing they just went off of the description from Miltfi.

I look like a sheep?

Yeah.

What's her name?

Miltfi Darby?

Mildred.

Mildred.

Oh.

Yeah.

No F at all.

Get the MILF out of your head.

Mildred.

Mildred.

Mildred Darby.

Yeah.

They must have just went off her description.

They're like, oh shit, there's the Elemental.

Yeah, she's fine.

Oh, I thought you were going off the description of Mildred.

Oh, yeah.

The eye holes.

Oh, there's some nice eye holes.

Oh, yeah.

Some real nice eye holes in the shape of a sheep.

So like I pictured that in 2006, it was just somebody visiting the castle, somebody doing some paranormal investigating.

Makes sense.

Because the castle is open for tours.

So you guys can go ahead and send an email to Sean Ryan.

Sean.

And you can set up visiting the place for a tour.

Can you rent it out for like a ghost hunter or anything?

I don't know about that.

I'm just interested.

I mean, I'm sure if you have enough money, I'm sure you could.

Like I know with Pennhurst, you could rent it out for an evening to do whatever you want in there.

Yeah.

I mean, dude, you know what?

I think I sent you the text.

I was just like, I wonder if enough people would like donate a dollar that we could rent that place out, just you and me for the night.

That would be nuts.

I would sit all night in the room that Skippy was in.

What would I sit?

I'd probably sit right next to you.

Yeah.

He's sitting by himself with Cory.

Dude, that would be good.

I'll walk by myself down here.

Yeah.

Cory's here too.

It's like, hey, how you doing?

Hey.

I didn't know where else to go.

We rented this whole building out and I'm next to him.

Dude, that would be funny.

Yeah.

It's scary down in the dungeon.

It's awfully scary.

It's like, nobody asked you to be here, Cory.

It's like, but I like to be with you, buddy.

You make me feel safe.

We talked about the burning and everything.

What are the ghosts of this place?

What are the ghosts that people see when they go here?

I feel like every place has a specific ghost in a specific area.

Has a name, has a thing it does.

Yes, exactly.

Before I dig into this too much.

Oh, jeez.

I'm just joking.

I used the website hauntedrooms.co.uk in an article titled The Haunted Leap Castle.

The Haunted Leap Castle.

So I'm just going to go over some of the different spirits, ghosts that have been seen, witnessed at Leap Castle by people.

Hell yeah.

So I guess before I dig into this, what do you think?

Do you think this place has enough shit that's happened for it to be haunted?

Over time, yeah, I think so.

When you're talking about a dungeon that is filled with hundreds of bodies that are found years and years after the fact.

So these are all these people who are not totally put to rest.

On top of that, you talk about the woman in red.

The woman in red that was raped multiple times, that had a baby that was killed, that ended up killing herself.

I feel like if you're ever talking about, plus all the, that there had to be wars and stuff fought over this building.

I mean, yeah, I would say you have enough.

There's enough.

Yeah.

In my opinion, yeah, I think you have enough to justify a haunted place.

Yeah, no, I agree with you right there, buddy.

So first off, there is the elemental being that is the size of a sheep.

It has black cavities for eyes and smells like a decaying corpse.

Demon is what I'm saying, but it seems that way.

They want to say elemental.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's.

You're saying.

Yeah, that was my struggle when I did our episode on the spirits is differentiating elementals from demons, from poltergeists.

I feel like those three all kind of are intertwined.

Yeah.

Oh, damn.

Hey, hell, yeah.

This elemental that lives at this castle only shows itself when it's challenged.

Oh, I would do that.

I know you would.

No, I would.

I don't know why.

I'd be there with you.

It just tingles my fancies to just square up with a ghost.

I feel like, I don't know.

What's that elemental?

Elemental.

Yeah.

Well, it's OK.

Square up with a spirit.

Yeah.

All I have to do is just like leave this place.

The elemental is not going to follow me.

Or you just like you just whipped your water bottle out.

So yeah, rainwater and say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, yeah, I'm Earth.

And I just reach in my pockets to pull out dirt and throw at it.

That's all it'd be that simple.

It just flies away.

It's like, damn it, he has my kryptonite.

I just went and I just blew it out.

It's like a candle.

It's been all these years and nobody's ever blown at me.

Yeah.

The last time that it's shown itself was 2006.

And there has been other stories of people experiencing or seeing the elemental while at Leap Castle, investigating or doing paranormal investigations, whatever it may be.

Yeah.

There has been some people that have supposedly seen it.

Supposedly.

Also, the spirit of Thaddeus O'Carroll, the priest.

Now I could see him.

Yeah.

Has been seen in the Bloody Chapel in other parts of the castle.

Now, see, this is my thing with a priest that is a spirit now that's stuck on this earth.

Because I feel like there's like if you're a spirit stuck on the earth, there's some kind of like like you're in purgatory.

Why would a priest be in purgatory?

What else was this dude doing?

I guess like killing people and taking over a castle might put you in purgatory.

Yeah.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Part of the shitty clan.

How much of a priest were you?

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

In the great hall of the castle, it's said to be haunted by the McMahon clan, who were murdered in their sleep by the O'Carrolls.

Yes.

The red lady is also seen wandering the castle wearing a red dress and holding a knife, looking to kill the men that hurt her and murder her baby.

Hey, you better watch out being an Irish guy.

Maybe on a pole lock, it's like, hey, listen, us pole locks are known for pretty much nothing.

You know?

That's why we always have the joke that in World War, if you can get a World War II model Polish rifle, they are the best ones to buy because they were never shot and only dropped once.

When we turned and ran, we knew when them Panzers crested the hill.

And then this one, which doesn't really relate with any of the shit that I went over so far.

Apparently, there's two young girls that have been seen at the castle named Emily and Charlotte.

Okay.

And I think they might have been sisters.

That's what they want you to think?

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah.

And supposedly, Emily died when she was 11, when she fell from one of the battlements, which are like the top of the castle, like the little crown, like the crown looking things.

You know what I mean?

Like those.

So she fell one of them when she was, she fell from one of them when she was 11, died.

And some people have reported seeing her ghost falling from the castle then disappearing before she hits the ground.

And then I'm not sure it was Charlotte because I haven't, I didn't see anything of like how she died, blah, blah, blah.

But apparently people see her dragging her deformed legs behind her.

Okay.

So yeah, I don't know if she jumped to land on her legs and then they bent back.

And then I don't with the shit that went on at this castle, there's no telling.

Yeah.

So maybe she survived the fall to the dungeon and her legs broke behind her back.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, who knows?

But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of other stories of different ghosts and people seeing shit there.

There's been a lot, but that's kind of like the overall, like the big ones that I saw.

All right.

So question for you, Cory, who is this place haunted or not?

Based off of everything I went over, all the deaths, the bloodshed, I say that it has the concoction for the perfect place to be haunted, whether it is or not.

It's hard to say unless you're there and you experience something.

But I think it has everything to be haunted.

It would seem that way.

Yeah.

And I think I tend to agree with exactly what you said.

They had all the right, like it is the perfect pot of stuff thrown and cooked up to be a haunted location.

Yeah.

I guess we'll just have to go over there to find out.

Dude, I've been wanting to go to Ireland like for many years.

I just can't afford it.

Yeah.

Can't afford it.

It's an issue.

It's a huge issue.

Yeah.

That's the big, that's honestly the biggest thing.

Can't afford it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One day we will.

Yeah.

Once we got our sponsors.

Yep.

Yep.

So yeah.

Yeah.

Once we have our sponsors, once we, yeah, who knows?

But I would thoroughly enjoy going over there.

So no folklore score today, right?

We got no folklore score.

It's just haunted or not.

And I'm going to say, I think it's haunted.

I am going to not going to say it's haunted, but I'm going to say, I don't know, is there like a half a thumbs up I can give it?

That it like two thumbs up?

Can I give it like a thumb up and a half?

Because like it could definitely be haunted.

Not sure if it is.

I don't know, that's how I feel.

Bang!

Nailed it.

Yeah.

So, yeah, that's how I feel.

I feel like there's definitely, and maybe it's just because I haven't, I haven't personally done enough reading and it's all stuff.

Yeah.

Like I did when we did the Penhurst episode and Penhurst, I think is a little closer to home for us than a castle that's overseas.

Yeah.

And a big question about that is like, what castle isn't haunted?

Like what castle hasn't?

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah.

What castle hasn't fucking had?

Had some shit go down in.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with that.

So hey, with that, with that, Mike's dumb.

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